The whole “all men are potential racists” things pisses me off so much. It sort of reminds me of how sometimes the current justice system in America assumes that all Black or Latino youths are potential criminals, so they have it stopped and frisked. It’s the same logic, if it’s wrong to use it for minorities it’s wrong for everyone else.
I assume they’re all white feminists, and it would of never dawned on them.
Being afraid that any man is a potential abuser or rapist is a legitimate fear, and you claiming that it’s the same as racial profiling is some straight up bullshit. Racial profiling is disgusting, and it is perpetuated by a fucked up system that deems anyone who doesn’t pass for white as a danger or threat. However, PoC, and in particular black people (not “Blacks” ffs) and Latinos, are not your comparison meter. Rape statistics are powerful enough on their own without using the crimes against PoC as your “See? It’s the same thing” argument.
stfueverything was well within their right to respond the way they did. Anyone who tries to pull that “we’re not all like that” shit clearly doesn’t fucking get it and is a terrible ally.
well first off if you are going to assume that every man is a potential rapist then you will most likely add in male Poc
secondly she responded in asshole manner (unsurprising) and “we’re not all like that” is a true statement
Don’t you have some Reddit threads to troll?
oh shit i forgot to troll r/listofpeoplewhodidn’tgivemealegitimateandhaveusedpersonalinsulttome i think you’ll fit right in well :)
#also i’m the one who postrd this #dumbass
Ugh no they are right the whole men might be rapist thing is bull crap
like don’t forget 40% of rapist are women but NO ONE EVER WANT TO TALK ABOUT THEM HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMm
Someone is calling out bull dose not =/=trolling what are you 13 that anyone who disagree with you is trolling EVEN THOUGH ITS NOT YOUR POST TO BEGIN WITH
also if you say all men are capable of rape and then say don’t stereotype Blacks or Latinos of being potential criminals that makes you a hypocrite and it just bullshittery
ps: bless you checkmatethatprivilege
~the black one
AHhh one of the most frustrating thing about the “all men are rapists” nonsense is that, aside from being incredibly sexist and stupid and not based in reality, is that it’s almost always argued by people who say they care about POC, who say “fuck whitey,” when what they’re saying re-inforces the logic of racial stereotypes as much as gender stereotypes, both of which disproportionately affect minority men. When you’re talking about men being disproportionately criminals, you’re talking about minorities as well, but most minority men aren’t criminals! Most men, women, and people aren’t criminals!
So when you say “all men do this,” “men are criminals/rapists” etc, THAT’S ALREADY THE STEREOTYPE for some men, when they haven’t done anything to deserve it, when only some people who are in a classification they belong to are statistically over-represented in certain crimes through no fault of the innocent men in that group. There’s a reason they’re disproportionately targeted, stopped and frisked, and criminally sentenced - and disproportionately the victims of violent crime might I add - and it’s partly because of people who make these ridiculous generalizations, who say “all men are potential rapists” because what you’re also saying is “Black/Latino men are potential rapists.” Comparing it to the black/latino youth stereotypes is extremely relevant. So these people are making it even harder for the minorities they claim their intersectionalism includes. It’s easy to dismiss them as teh menz, a monolithic perpetrator class, conflate black and latino and minority men/youth with white men to make themselves feel better about their sexism, but they’re re-enforcing the culture that allows the stereotyping and difficulties for Black/Latino/minority/working-class/impoverished/hyper-masculine-but-harmless-poor men to thrive. You’re demonizing them as criminals. Their issues don’t exist in a vacuum; they aren’t stopped and frisked and sentenced and targeted JUST because of race. It’s because of their being a male member of a minority or poor as well
So you have no business saying you’re pro-POC and care about any of these issues facing POC men, or POC in general, if you’re sitting there demonizing people based on gender on the side, further compounding their issues. You just suck a whole lot.
No - no no no. 99% of rapists are men (the “40% of rapists are women” has been disproven time and time again), and 20% of women will be raped in their lifetime. This is not a minor crime that’s happening rarely. As for a “small percentage” of men being the ones to commit rape - surveys have shown that one in three or four men admit to having committed a rape. A recent American study of nearly 2000 men revealed over 75% of them had committed or attempted to commit a rape. Mind, this is SELF REPORTING
This is not the same as racial profiling. The problem with racial profiling in, for example, America, is that different races make up such a small proportion of the society compared to the crime that targeting them is unfair.
For example, in 2011, 0.5% of all white males were in prison for drug offenses. 6% of all black men were in prison for drug offenses. Based on this, there’s no evidence to support racial profiling - both numbers are incredibly small. For each group, there’s over a 90% chance the person you’re looking at - regardless of color - is NOT involved in drugs.
But the same is not true for rape. 75% of men have SELF-REPORTED to attempting or committing rape. And that’s men. 99% of rapes are committed by men, and 90% of those rapes are against women.
No, not all men are rapists. NO ONE thinks that. The problem, though, is that there is a non-negligible probability that any random man has committed / has tried to/will commit rape.
The closest thing to “disproving” that 40% of rapists are women thing usually involves using the less reliable lifetime numbers instead of the one year ones, and studiously ignoring the fact that for the lifetime numbers to be accurate, 25% of all male rapes would have occured in the year before the CDC study. No explanation for this drastic increase is offered.
That, or pointing to the fact that “made to penetrate” isn’t under rape, despite the report clearly describing rape in the definition.
And in both cases, there’s a tendency to ignore the fact that men are much less likely to report than women. In fact, the Widom and Morris study quoted in the article puts men at about 16% and women at about 64%, with documented victimization. 16:64 (or 1:4) is almost the exact ratio demonstrated by the lifetime numbers, which, needless to say, include many men and women who never reported.
Even assuming the lifetime numbers are right, then that still leaves men as about 20% (one in five) of victims, not 1%. Which puts female rapists at around 16%, or one in six rapists.
Any way you slice it, the evidence in question indicates male rape victims and female rapists make up a significantly larger portion of victims than society and feminism are willing to acknowledge. But hey, it’s not like feminism has a vested interest in ignoring anything that means rape isn’t “gendered violence” and “violence against women”, right? It’s not like the “20% of women will be raped” myth has been disproven over and over*, right, and is based on a survey that was performed before you were born, right? It’s not like there are millions of dollars tied up in rape prevention programs that only address M>F victims and actively gender rape, right?
* See that? That’s called “backing up your claims”. Try it sometime!